tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post4112778942670880903..comments2023-12-17T16:13:06.670-05:00Comments on In a Godward direction: A Sea of BishopsTobias Stanislas Haller BSGhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08047429477181560685noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-65783626119215938122007-07-04T01:06:00.000-05:002007-07-04T01:06:00.000-05:00I can see future conversations, now:"We're making ...I can see future conversations, now:<BR/><BR/><BR/>"We're making a new bishop!"<BR/><BR/>"Oh! Not <I>that</I> old party trick!"MarkBrunsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16971990948866488080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-11653479101236719732007-07-01T19:39:00.000-05:002007-07-01T19:39:00.000-05:00And the Epistle for today is from Galatians 5: "N...And the Epistle for today is from Galatians 5: "Now the works of the flesh are . . . enmities, strife, jealousy, anger, quarrels, dissensions, factions." <BR/><BR/>Everything old is new again.Paul (A.)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07543357437252555101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-54556404820092119462007-07-01T19:33:00.000-05:002007-07-01T19:33:00.000-05:00Chris Jones,You've misunderstood me rather a bit h...Chris Jones,<BR/>You've misunderstood me rather a bit here. I am using "self-styled" in the literal sense, that is, to refer to those who call <I>themselves</I> "orthodox" -- whether they are or not is not for me to say -- and who complain they are surrounded by "apostate Episcopalians" -- those such as myself, who are not, I believe, actually apostate, but have been branded as such by the self-branded "orthodox." In short, I was speaking of the labels casually thrown about here by the those who favor such things -- and I question how accurate they are. (By "orthodox" for example, they mean far <I>more</I> than the Nicene Creed!)Tobias Stanislas Haller BSGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08047429477181560685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-71149840969718993142007-07-01T18:55:00.000-05:002007-07-01T18:55:00.000-05:00Fr Haller,Not so long ago, you were insisting to m...Fr Haller,<BR/><BR/>Not so long ago, you were insisting to me that only teachings addressed in the Creed could be "doctrine," properly so called. I am surprised, therefore, to find you referring to your conservative opponents as <I>the self-styled orthodox among the apostate Episcopalians</I>.<BR/><BR/>Surely you do not mean to suggest that these conservatives do not deserve the title "orthodox" as measured by the Nicene Creed. Or do you? Similarly, they can perhaps be described as "schismatic" in terms of the polity of the Episcopal Church. But to describe them as "apostate" is to accuse them of abandoning their faith in the Son of God altogether.<BR/><BR/>I hardly think that that is fair.Chris Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03220498656377282715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-22847279589031820602007-07-01T00:32:00.000-05:002007-07-01T00:32:00.000-05:00On the one hand, I'm sure all these bishops ("bish...On the one hand, I'm sure all these bishops ("bishops" so-called?) were YEARS in the planning and making...<BR/><BR/>...yet on the other, I can't help but feel that the rash of 'em, announced AFTER the ABC announced that neither Martyn Minns, nor the AMIA bishops, would be invited to Lambeth, amounts to a HUGE "F*ck you!" to Rowan Cantuar.<BR/><BR/>But how will Rowan Cantuar see it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-40890300477272540002007-07-01T00:03:00.000-05:002007-07-01T00:03:00.000-05:00I have posted a suggested shopping list for these ...I have posted a <A HREF="http://caughtbythelight.blogspot.com/2007/06/essential-equipment.html" REL="nofollow">suggested shopping list</A> for these new bishops.<BR/><BR/>Sometimes a bit of humor is all the charity we can afford.Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07474786207149076221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-22918045267541873062007-06-30T22:42:00.000-05:002007-06-30T22:42:00.000-05:00Them bishops wanna serve God's people? I've got th...Them bishops wanna serve God's people? I've got this here soup kitchen, and I've even got a couple of purple aprons hangin' about.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-4220902649733243182007-06-30T22:07:00.000-05:002007-06-30T22:07:00.000-05:00Arguably, much of the effort, erudite discussion n...Arguably, much of the effort, erudite discussion notwithstanding, has been about getting Daddy's attention and approval, preferably at the expense of other children. It seems to me to be of a piece that those who would support moving meaningful authority in to the hands of a smaller and smaller group of bishops <I>primi inter pares</I> would also feel it important to have more bishops of their own.<BR/><BR/>We have all affirmed the office of the bishop as a symbol of unity. These are those who wish to establish a new unity, with some in and some out. A new unity requires new bishops.Marshall Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02807749717320495495noreply@blogger.com